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May 31st, 2006


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04:35 am - A Potterverse musing -- What is Voldemort's real agenda?
This Potterverse essay started off as a comment I made to innerslytherin, the writer of a Snupin fic I've been enjoying reading in the lupin_snape community. I thought I'd expand it a bit and see what thoughts, if any, people have on the subject.

What is Voldemort's real agenda?

I've seen the whole Dumbledore versus Voldemort as more of an internal power struggle within the Wizarding World and less of a real ideological one, since the whole anti-Muggleborn agenda came in well after Voldemort started his rise to power. He aspired to Dumbledore's position as King of the Wizarding World's Hill well before he was able to mount a credible challenge to Dumbledore.

It may even be something of a red herring for him -- simply a means to an end, that end being gathering more followers to his banner. He may simply have found it an expedient flag to fly, one that made it easier for him to recruit followers by using the pre-existing anti-Muggleborn bias of the purebloods and any wannabe half-blood arrivistes who aspired to join the Wizarding World's almost-exclusively-pureblood upper class.

This anti-Muggleborn bias is one that I believe may be founded in the belief that Muggleborns weren't assimilating into wizarding culture and were instead diluting its ancient traditions with their new-fangled Muggle attitudes and ideas. (Witness Hermione and S.P.E.W., for example . . . ) The anti-Muggleborn fanatics may see this issue as a struggle for the heart and soul of wizarding culture.

The analogy I'd like to draw here is the anti-Western-culture bias of certain parts of the Muslim world, where things considered normal in the West are denounced as being "un-Islamic" and serve as recruitment fodder for Islamic fundamentalists, including those with terrorist tendencies. The Death Eaters are Voldemort's own personal terror squad, bent on creating mayhem and sowing discord, but with a political agenda. Their agenda is to sap Dumbledore's public support, much as the Madrid terrorists' train bombing was a factor in Spain's elections and subsequent withdrawal from the situation in Iraq once the newly-elected Spanish government was in place.

Voldemort's real agenda may simply be to usurp Dumbledore's place as primus inter pares in the Wizarding World.

It certainly seems to be more in line with Rowling's portrayal of him as a megalomaniac. In psychiatric terms, Voldemort suffers from narcissistic personality disorder, apparently co-morbid with schizoid and/or antisocial personality disorder. (Compare his behavior, description and personal history in canon with the DSM-IV-TR diagnostic criteria for each of these personality disorders if you don't believe me.)

Some of the hallmarks of narcissistic personality disorder are a sense of entitlement and of being "special" and inherently superior. Since Voldemort is the Heir of Slytherin, he feels entitled to lead the Wizarding World.

Unfortunately for him, Albus Dumbledore is the de facto ruler of it, a situation that grates on the former Tom Riddle. This is something he cannot allow to continue and so Voldemort seeks power, by whatever means he can find, to usurp Dumbledore and become the new leader of the Wizarding World.

The fact that Muggles and Muggleborns are eliminated along the way is merely the icing on the cake, not the cake itself, since he never cared for them in the first place anyway. Voldemort seeks power for personal reasons, not ideological ones -- anti-Muggleborn ideology is simply a means to an end for him, albeit a means he exploits ruthlessly in furtherance of his personal goals. It is important to also not forget either that he had almost achieved those goals before he made his capital error of going after the Potter family, something which I am sure spurs him on to try once more to achieve his ultimate goal -- dominion over the Wizarding World, his rightful domain.
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From:beyond_pale
Date:May 31st, 2006 10:15 pm (UTC)
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intreigingly interesting newborn theory.

But to my Horcrux-ponderings, here's some quick cut-and-pastes from my brainstorms. But first:
    "The diary had been a Horcrux. But this raised as many questions as it answered. What intrigued and alarmed me most was that that diary had been intended as a weapon as much as a safeguard."

    Dumbledore HBP USHC 500
SO, we have Dumbledore telling Harry that the Diary DOES NOT BEHAVE THE WAY HORCRUXES ARE SUPPOSED TO; they are not meant to be interactive and offensive in this manner!!

Then, we have Jo telling us to (for the most part) trust the dead Headmaster's assessment:
    It's not all of it. Obviously it's not all of it, but still, that is the way to kill Voldemort. That's not to say it won't be extremely an torturous and winding journey, but that's what he's got to do. Harry now knows — well he believe he knows – what he's facing. Dumbledore's guesses are never very far wide of the mark. I don't want to give too much away here, but Dumbledore says, 'There are four out there, you've got to get rid of four, and then you go for Voldemort.' So that's where he is, and that's what he's got to do. ...It's a huge order. But Dumbledore has given him some pretty valuable clues and Harry, also, in the course of previous six books has amassed more knowledge than he realizes. That's all I am going to say.
I don't agree that Dumbledore corrected id all the Horcruxes (because I think Harry is a Horcrux), but there it stands.

Now, back to the Diary:

First things first: A Horcrux is not a 1-up. It is not an Extra Life. You CANNOT "use" a Horcrux to return from the dead, thus rendering the physical object useless.

It is AN OBJECT that a piece of your soul is BOUND TO. How I think this works is that Horcruxes are like sandbags; your life is a sort of hot-air balloon. Most people just have their SINGLE soul weighing them down to the earth, and a Horcrux gives you extra ballast.

It CANNOT RESURRECT you; it merely prevents you from dying. REMEMBER what Voldemort said, "I would not know; I have never died."

"Well, you split your soul, see," said Slughorn, "and hide part of it in an object outside the body. Then, even if one's body is attacked or destroyed, ONE CANNOT DIE, for part of the soul remains earthbound and undamaged." (US HBP 497)

Anyone could AK Voldemort and he wouldn't die, because his soul wouldn't leave this mortal realm, or maybe not even his body, if it remained intact (this is one of the zillion reasons I think Tom Riddle's body was destroyed in the Hollow). He'd just laugh at you. Dumbledore himself points out that EVEN WITHOUT A BODY, VOLDEMORT IS IMMORTAL (US HBP p502). Not dead. NEVER dead. Regaining his body had very little to do with the operation of the Horcruxes; they just kept his soul earthbound until he could find a new container. None of the soul-fragments in the Horcruxes poured into his new body. Horcruxes don't "transfer" life that way.

They simply DO NOT work that way. This is another common misconception, I think.

I would contest that the diary was NOT a "normal" Horcrux. Horcruxes simply aren't "interactive" to the extent the diary was. The Diary was a young Riddle experimenting and attempting to press boundaries. Even he was a bit surprised at how it functioned. There is no way that anyone could depend on someone's willingness to pour out a sould into the object, because Ginny's interaction with the book altered the nature of the original diary, and "young Tom" says as much.

Voldemort likes to operate alone, remember. I believe that he would have found the thought of being dependent, even on the Elixir, intolerable. [...] Therefore, I am convinced, he intended to continue relying on his Horcruxes: He would need nothing more, if only he could regain a human form. He was already imortal, you see..."

What the diary was doing, with the energy of Ginny's soul was, yes, creating a new, corporeal BODY for Voldemort.

The difference is, the body that this Horcrux generated for him was DEPENDENT ON the generating Horcrux. LV would not have liked that at all. That wasn't how it was supposed to go down. He was young though, a mere kid. I'm sure he got the hang of it eventually.




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From:courtaud
Date:June 1st, 2006 05:09 am (UTC)
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SO, we have Dumbledore telling Harry that the Diary DOES NOT BEHAVE THE WAY HORCRUXES ARE SUPPOSED TO; they are not meant to be interactive and offensive in this manner!!
Absolutely; also, the Diary was not protected at all. Dumbledore destroys the Horcrux in the ring, and is grievously wounded; Harry pierces the Diary and is spattered in ink! (unless Harry has some weird power on the Horcruxes; but then, why DD didn't wait for him?)

Then, we have Jo telling us to (for the most part) trust the dead Headmaster's assessment
She should be forbidden to give interviews... I'd like to know what is the knowledge that Harry has amassed without knowing. But please note that Harry 'believes to know' what he's facing.

I don't agree that Dumbledore corrected id all the Horcruxes (because I think Harry is a Horcrux), but there it stands.
I don't understand the Peverel ring, neither. If the Diary was an Horcrux, how could Tom ask Slughorn about multiple Horcruxes while wearing the ring? Unless you can wait a long time between the killing and the making of the Horcrux...

First things first: A Horcrux is not a 1-up. It is not an Extra Life. You CANNOT "use" a Horcrux to return from the dead, thus rendering the physical object useless.
That's not what I meant when I said that the Diary is 'like a Save point'. I wanted to say that Horcruxes anchor your soul, is not a snapshot of a moment in time.
The Diary was trying to give material form to a Tom Riddle that no longer existed, a boy of sixteen whose 'real' identity was at the moment Vapourmort. Yes, later Vapourmort can take his reborn body, but at the moment he is Tom Riddle, aged sixteen.
If all the Horcruxes were like this, then there was a seventeen-year-old Tom in the Peverel ring, a twentysomething one in the Hufflepuff cup, and so on... but they don't work that way.

(this is one of the zillion reasons I think Tom Riddle's body was destroyed in the Hollow).
Also because nobody says that they saw the corpse. It would have made a powerful argument against Dumbledore when he warned of Voldemort's return. ('He cannot be back! He is buried six feet under!')

Regaining his body had very little to do with the operation of the Horcruxes
Absolutely nothing, in fact. The Horcruxes keep anchoring his soul before his body's destruction, during his Vapourmort moment, and after his rebirth, and will do so until destroyed.

I would contest that the diary was NOT a "normal" Horcrux. Horcruxes simply aren't "interactive" to the extent the diary was. The Diary was a young Riddle experimenting and attempting to press boundaries.
The Diary has two goals. One, to keep a 'backup image' of Tom relatively safe and carry it through time, no matter what happened to his body AND soul; and two, to actively seek out someone to sacrifice for giving this image a new body. I say actively, because like other similar artifacts (the Map, and I suspect the Half Blood Prince's book) the Diary seems to let itself be found by the right people at the right moment. Yes, waiting for a victim to pass may be risky, but then spiders hunt like this and they are successful predators...

The difference is, the body that this Horcrux generated for him was DEPENDENT ON the generating Horcrux.
The process was interrupted, though, when Ginny was still alive and before the body could become really solid. If the Diary were not destroyed, who can say? (And anyway there was a little success. The Diary poured a part of Tom Riddle in Ginny.)

That wasn't how it was supposed to go down.
LV was beside himself when he discovered that the Diary had been destroyed. And what if it was, also, his backdoor to go back to the past?





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